Messages posted by: Fatny

48. Takes OB too seriously
red viper

49. Is too sensitive
red viper

73. Longest signature
red viper

92. Gayest line in a signature
red viper's "Man to man piece by piece"

Hopkins is god. Makes you wonder how the hell he managed to lose to taylor...

Josh "The Raging Tapir" Harley

webmaster and online poker grinder

Squeezed (Lemon?) Head wrote:Such patience to conquer a game that really amounts to nothing any other individual outside of this little group would even take note of?

Just like every single computer game, no?

Squeezed (Lemon?) Head wrote:Nice of you to admit that what you require is patience.

I don't require patience, the GAME requires patience from the way it's designed. Or maybe are you just too stupid to understand that last post i wrote.

Squeezed (Lemon?) Head wrote:
As a side note, if you ever fancy playing on any client with any limits i'd be more than happy to take your bankroll from you on a heads up cash game. That game holds a bit more understandable weight and as mentioned you can't ply your way through it.

I don't play heads up, only full table nl100 and nl200 cash games and tournaments. My online bankroll is over 10k anyway and you probably don't have any money.

To be honest you sound like a kid just out of high school with a frustration problem and some sort of weird superiority complex. Probably an absolute loser in real life that spends the majority of his time trolling forums and bashing people online to try to boost his self-esteem or something.

And PS if you think people don't "work out" poker you're way off. Just ask any serious poker player online that multitables a lot. Real talented players that go up the stakes fast and have some kind of gifted deep understanding of the game don't, but those are a very, very small minority of the winning players.

Squeezed (Lemon?) Head wrote:
Don't worry if you lose a few you'll still have enough for a meal and a blowjob from a ladyboy.

Such a pathetic comment it made me laugh.

Keep trolling, loser.

For those that don't understand the patience part it's really simple and basic. You don't need to be a genius or to "work out" the game until your eyes bleed, it's actually pretty obvious. I'm sure quite a lot of players already know that.

You've got stamina and you've got punching power. Each punch takes a set amount of stamina that never change. Say -1 stamina for a jab, -4 stamina for a right hand or whatever. But on the other side, each time you throw a punch your power lowers, and while it's lowered the next punches do less damage. So if you do a big combination say Jab-Jab-Righthand-Righthand-Righthand like Red Viper likes to do, well it's sure fun, but the 2 last righthands do much less damage if they land than a righthand with full power, while taking the full -4 stamina. So on the long run (because an OB fight is pretty long) it's ineficcient. That's why big combinations aren't as good as single potshots in OB.

Add that fact to the fact that there is 12 rounds and every round is worth just as much as the others and that you have a set amount of stamina, and the patience requirement becomes pretty obvious.

Now how do you recover your punching power between shots? Well there's 2 ways. You either step back or you go forward and clinch (oh no the evil word). In OB the ring is pretty small, so if you step back all the time you'll soon find yourself in your corner and once in your corner, you can't step back anymore. Clinching you can do endlessly, and at the same time it has the small benefit of adding some little time when the ref breaks the clinch to recover some more punching power. So since OB is designed this way, clinching is better than stepping back.

Almost all of those that are patient and aware of the stamina/power thing like Boxa or Larry Holmes or Sugarray step back to recover their power. It works well, but not as well as clinching.

Pretty basic isin't it? That's all there is to my style. There's no need to "work out" anything, there's no big system, it's the way the game is and it's obvious. It's why it's better to fight slowly and patiently than to throw tons of combinations like Vargas or Red Viper or Unstop.

If this game didn't have punching power and stamina, then it would be purely skills aka only reflexes and speed, just like Street Fighter. But since they're there, Patience is a huge part of the game also.

That's another thing, reflexes. That's what OB is mostly about. When an opponent throws a shot, you need to react quick enough to block it. Pratice will improve your timing in a fighting game, experience will make you realise a few things (if i hit the guy with 2 uppercuts, he'll most likely then react and defend his head, so i should throw a bodyshot instead), but really to be good in a fighting game you need good reflexes and you can't "work that out". I think everyone at the top has great reflexes. Did Barrack obama need to spend nights "working the game out" before owning people in his comeback? No he owned on the first day. It's all about some pratice to have the right timing (which he already had), and then it's just reflexes.

But in OB there's a third quality that you need that isin't in most fighting games and that's where I get my edge from: patience. By patience i'm talking about being patient during a fight, not spending days grinding the game to develop an ultimate strategy like squeezefag makes it sound (i didn't play any more than the average good player, that's pretty easy to check up anyway). In OB fights are pretty long compared in say Street fighter and there's stamina, so you need to fight it up slowly. You need to play carefully when you're hurt so the other guy doesn'T get a point. You need not to throw huge combinations all the time because it's too hard on the stamina. That's where i have a big edge and some people like Unstop and Vargas fail. They both might have just as good or close to as good reflexes as me, but they don't have enough patience during a fight.

TBH there's a lot of truth in this, i don't play OB like if it was boxing, i play it like a 2D fighting game. Like Street Fighter or Tekken. If anyone ever watched high level games of street fighter they know it's basically the same as what i do, there's not a lot of creativity there, people have mastered the good moves of their character and have a basic plan. They do this, and if the opponent makes a particular move, they counter with a particular move. Not much creativity or "free thinking", this game is about 3 things: reflexes, pratice and patience.

That's just how 2D fighting games go. For some other games like shooters even less qualities are needed to be at the top (it's pretty much 100% reflexes). And for others like Starcraft you'll need the reflexes, speed and patience + many more qualities (like creativity).

Now to say I played 1 dimensionally and that if you'd make a big change i'd have been clueless and gotten owned for 3 weeks is pushing it. I think i had the best or second best jab (with Black bear as a close first or second), even with several drastic changes that would make my trademark inside shots+clinch style useless i'd be able to box just as well as the best boxers in there. You don't need anything more than a good jab and good reflexes (to block well) to win at this game.

Well if you removed the clinching, all the inside shots and the jabs and therefore only left the right hand and the big hook, I probably would. TheMadMan would become a king with these settings.

Well if you couldn't understand that one I can't help you, you might want to have this problem checked buddy!

What makes you think you're so bright by the way? The guy is a dutch living in a spanish country typing fine english on the internet.

How many languages do you speak fluently, 5? You must be some sort of genius. My real guess is 1 though because anyone that actually tried to learn different languages wouldn't make little arrogant (and retarded) comments like the chessmate/checkmate one.

Squeezed (Lemon?) Head wrote:I'm loving the fact the title is chessmate and not checkmate
Pretty much sums the whole thing up from challenger to the guys supporting it to maybe even beyond. Haaaahahaha

Yes Haaaahahaha how funny how ridiculous! People writing chessmate instead of checkmate how dare they, a huge mistake like that they must definetly be retarded or total idiots... Disregard the fact that this is internet and people from all over the world write there in english, be it their first language or not!

QUIZ!

You know why Squeezed Head head's ended up squeezed? It's because he constantly has his head up his ass! It explains the smell also...

PS: bangkok airport is hardcore. You get out of the plane and then you're like a giant turd (excuse pun!), and there's a lot of flies coming at you. They're not going to give up, they'll follow you for several minutes to convince you that you need a taxe-hotel-phone-cream-whatever in thaiglish instead (which isin't really understandable though) first.

One even kept asking me if i wanted a girl to come to my hotel for a "massage" (the " " are important).

Thought it would be hardcore and it sure is lol.

picture taken at the Tokyo airport:

I just don't see what the problem is, there's many titles, it's not like it prevents anyone getting one and becoming a champion.

There's a few with high pings: boon, african assassin, trpche, i'm sure i forget some. And remember that when it comes to OB, "a few" actually means a fair % of the total amount of players, so why not let them have their chance too?

I'd agree if there was one title and it prevented normal ping people from becoming champions, but it's not the case.

I do not think they should call out other champs (like the other thread) as it's unfair for the non-lagger, but they should have their thing and fight each other + those that don't mind a laggy fight.

No it's the "High Ping Title", win it within the rules or chase one of the other titles, there's 4 of them anyway